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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.18 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 18/04/2010 08:19:46
I'm with SencneS here.. if this PI should take off, they need to remove the NPC orders on the 18th. Whatever happens after that might be bad, but the market/industry needs to go through this, as otherwise the feedback won't be there.
The only thing that will somewhat bandage that 'jump into the cold water' will be traders and pos-runners who bought enough of the stuff to hold out till the players kick in. Everybody else will get burned financially.. but this happend several times already during patches. Be it probes or bombs.
On a side note.. I wonder who in here already got burned with the T3 frig gamble.. 
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 21/04/2010 17:15:45
Originally by: SencneS moves hand furiously in front of audience
..after I'd read your comment in that other thread about narcotics I just think: "What the hell is S. really doing down there?"   
Also your numbers are off by a factor of at least 4 or 4.5.. depending on how many extractors your PCC is running (with current stats, in the dev blog they talk about upgrades, so..). That's also why most of the people consider running pure extractor planets with basic lvl1 processing and then processing planets which will just do lvl2/3/4/5/x processing. The volumes are quiet managable, once you're done with lvl1 processing, so hauling isn't that big of a PITA it looks at first sight.
Only unknown so far is how many PCC per player we are able to run maxed out. 
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.22 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 22/04/2010 04:35:36 Edited by: Tres Farmer on 22/04/2010 04:34:02
Originally by: SencneS I'm talking about one simple part of the entire chain of production... Producing Water... [...]
At 150u/min sources you can run the following setup: 1 PCC has 10k MW and 5k TF. 1 extractor with 150u/min runs 0.75 processors The numbers don't match up good, but what the hell..
typetfmw# of PINs --------------------------------- pcc5000100001 extr25010007 proc5002506 stor1502501 launch4505000 link/km0.2000.040280km (20km per PIN) --------------------------------- sum49568761.2 ================================= free441238.8 Means this planet will pull out 5,040 units of water a day (20u x 2 x 24hr x 5.25). At current NPC sell prices (32.56/u) that's worth 164k isk a day. 4.9M per 30 days.
Yeah.. waterprices are in need of a raise.
Whats a month of babysitting a planet worth anyways? With current mechanics you need to check back to that dirtball every 12 hours for 3 minutes. 2hrs a month. Then the hauling.
If we compare it with mining in high sec we would like to get 10M a hour. This means the planet should yield 30M a month? So 1 unit of water would come in at around 200 isk? *
*) upkeep not included
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.22 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 22/04/2010 11:35:38
Originally by: Tau Cabalander ... 6000 Noble Metals -> 20 Precious Metals 6000 Base Metals -> 20 Reactive Metals 40 Precious Metals + 40 Reactive Metals -> 5 Mechanical Parts 6000 Heavy Metals -> 20 Toxic Metals 6000 Non-CS Crystals -> 20 Chiral Structures 40 Toxic Metals + 40 Chiral Structures -> 5 Consumer Electronics
4010 Mechanical Parts + 4010 Consumer Electronics -> 53 Robotics
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